Latest comments posted about Towards a global climate regime on ChinaDialogue en-gb http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/2616-Towards-a-global-climate-regime http://staging.chinadialogue.net/images/cdlogo.gif http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/2616-Towards-a-global-climate-regime Negotiations on climate change benefit the future of all human beings. The fact that we have found out that the problems of this planet cannot be solved with nations and sovereignties alone, is the reason behind existing international laws and their development. International laws for climate change however, have seemed to struggle since 1997 and the causes might just be what Pan Jiahua has paid less attention to--"equality between nations." Definitions of equality are many and complex; no matter whether they are the equalities between nations or between individuals, the equalities within a generation or between generations, or whether the equalities are inventorial or vectorial. Actually, Mr. Pan Jiahua didn't take note of the convergence of different equalities in international negotiations. In fact, the installment of a system for human civilization, or the setup of an internatioanl rule of law for climate change, should map out a compatible and acceptable path for politicians in different countries, not only focus on equality between individuals, equality within a generation and inventorial equality. We have to take on other perspectives, and not just deny them. An international climate rule cannot be framed, I guess, mainly because equality cannot be consistently defined. However, no matter whether it is judicial equality in a judicial sense, or profit-related equality in an economics sense, developed and developing countries need to thoroughly understand these two equalities and strive to put them into practice! So, based on this judgement, the superficial problem of equality is really how to focus on every nation's present interests and protect them. It is necessary to be aware of this before any solution or plan is proposed. For this reason, many solutions asking developed countries to resume their historical responsibilities are bound to be unacceptable. We would all rather look to the future and forget the past. After all, the future is what counts in the worry about climate change! Li Wei translated by Ming Li Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:13:35 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8152 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8152 I personally feel that when it refers to ‘fairness’, a lot of people will put in mind of assistance programs (such as capacity-building) provided by developed countries. It is hard to say to what extent it can be called fairness. Fairness is often used as weapons of attack and political pretext by different conflict groups. I think that sustainable development can be promoted really only but when it is given more emphasis than political interests. We need a strong global leadership, which must come from the interest of the people and can keep the balance development of the world. (Leung) (Translated by Lanmei) Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:52:25 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8091 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8091 I think this is an very interesting idea, at least it tries to stand on a fairer basis to talk about climate change for all people on this planet. No doubt that those who have exceeded their proportion of emission right should reduce their emission therefore those who didn't reach the roof will understand there is a hard ceiling for their emissions so better to plan and take action from now. This is a very practical way of thinking. Ziyuan Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:59:07 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8092 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8092 Carbon Budget Proposal alone is not a solution since it is people based. The reduction of 20% for instance compared with 200x doesn't help if the population is also growing ie the budget of the nation is allowed to grow. We already are using up more of the worlds resources (and transform them in CO2) at the moment. If developing nations are first starting to get developed and then starting to reduce the CO2-output it is to late. This is not sustainable especially not for developing nation which are the first to have trouble not to have enough drinking water, floods etc. Life is not fair. We all need to help developing nation develop in a sustainable way. Share eco knowledge and educate people. Mirjam (Shanghai) Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:03:48 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8087 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8087 Progress is certainly slow in Poznan but Mexico, for instance, has set itself an impressive voluntary target, as a developing country. Will China do the same? Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:35:38 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8078 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8078 How can fair carbon emission targets be achieved if all resource allocation is nowhere near fair? I take a dim view that developed countries will genuinely shoulder their own obligations. Translated by Ming li Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:07:22 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8073 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8073 This proposal is certainly more interesting than most. Here in Poznan, debate seems to be stunted and the process drawn out. The question is - how do you take good suggestions and turn them into a concrete agreement? Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:46:48 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8072 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2616#comment-8072