Latest comments posted about Green China and young China (part one) on ChinaDialogue en-gb http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/1167-Green-China-and-young-China-part-one- http://staging.chinadialogue.net/images/cdlogo.gif http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/1167-Green-China-and-young-China-part-one- Comment 19: I used to think that China can't afford environmental protection, but now I doubt it because: eating and drinking using public funds annually waste 300 billion RMB, business car use reaches 300 billion RMB every year and annually the cost of inspection tours amounts to the same amount (in total: 1000 billion). However, during the eleventh five-year (2006-2010), pollution control in China requires an investment of 1.3 trillion RMB, with an annual investment of 260 billion! Do you think we really can’t afford environmental protection? Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:02:19 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4358 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4358 Isn't Green Olympics something as doubtable as this one is? Think of the newly built sports facilities, overloaded transportation due to large scale migrations, and the hyper pressure placed onto the local resources of the hosting country. In a sense, the Olympics is the most un-environmental friendly "civilized events" of the world. If the Olympics Committee establishes a rule that "forbids hosting countries to build sports facilities blindly" and monitors the implementation closely, that would be a big bless! sxz Fri, 03 Aug 2007 05:06:40 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4130 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4130 Water, energy and fertile earth are three essential mainstays that support human's existence on the earth. If you can have chance to travel round China, you find rivers are polluted, energy resources are wasted and fertile fields have been turned to cement expanse. Sustainability is the pretext behind which maximium profit is after. So the young generation is anxious to catch the opportunity to make life enjoyable without much care for others. Only a few people worry for the future,but their voice too weak to be heard. Even our minister of enviroment protection can do little. Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:57:39 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4128 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4128 The generation same as Pan, are the onse who dominate this world. What I can do is not to follow their steps. Hence,we need behavior ourselves first before we comment. Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:26:57 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4123 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4123 Uncle Pan Yue ~~ those from the past generation would think that the next generation will break down. Right at the moment, you may think like that, perhaps we will also think the same in future. Navarch,Shanghai Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:24:15 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4120 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4120 As a high school student in Shanghai,China, I understand Mr.Pan's concern and respect his straightforwardness. Indeed there's a porton of Chinese youngsters who indulge themselves in material enjoyment, who do not have a clue with where their life is heading. One of the main reasons for this phenomenon is that our parents, our educators, or even our society are neglecting what is important for our education. The purpose of education is not to design an answering machine for standardised tests, nor to blindly pursue a wealthy life, but to maximise your self-value and try to experience life and make this world a better place. Moral education is somehow being disregarded by many people with a narrowed vision. It is time to change. Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:20:35 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4107 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4107 I have been back from England and worked in China for several years, but I really miss the fresh air and grassland in England. I came back to China because England is not my home country. Air and water pollution in China became worse now. I think, China is following the step of the West, which is environmental protection after pollution happened. It is really admirable that Pan Yue is not only has courageous to releave the truth of pollution, but also try to resolve this problem, despite of his limited power. He is an officer, deserving all our respect. what he has done reflect a sustainable idea, and he devotes himself to the benefit of the country. Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:44:24 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4088 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4088 There is a quote: In the past, we were solving the issue regarding from survival to development, however at present, we must resolve the issue from development to survival. If clearly understand this point, lots of unnecessary arguments can be avoided, saving time to do real work. Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:32:38 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4091 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4091 Once there are no desire and right to maintain lifeless, there will be no awareness to resist and struggle. As for the environment issuer, most Chinese people are just in the above situation. For long time, we are taught that the water we drink is hygeian, the food we eat is safe, and the government says noting about how to prevent the potential threat caused by environmental pollution, also we have no awareness to know about whether our water, air, quality and the food will be hazard to our life. That is a terrible fact! The situation in China will be even worse if there are no “Tai lake hyacinth” and global warming issues. You can ask any one in the street about the environmental protection casually, you’ll only find that people know nothing about the question which, they suppose, is professional and should be the business of the government but not theirs. For long time I am confused that why they hold such viewpoint until I realize that it’s the lack of environment education which is unsystematic. For a long time, the popularity of environment knowledge is carried out by the local propaganda center, but I wonder how many effective things they have done actually; recent years, it looks as if all kinds mediums act as a main force of environment knowledge publication, but most of them are hot issue oriented but not propaganda centered, also with little kindness to the public…in a word, it’s because that we lack the knowledge of environmental protection, we are so indifferent to the environment issues, without public supervision, it’s difficult for government especially the local government to do something beneficial to people, to change the current situation, a more perfect mechanism of life long environment protection education should be established, and make sure to implement it! Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:03:49 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4044 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4044 Environmental conservation, no doubt, is a long term issue. But how are we supposed to provide the economic foundation for environmental conservation without the sufficient material means? We denounce local governments for initiating polluting projects. But establishing industry is unavoidable for economic development. How are we supposed to do this according to others? Let us not take the West as a leading example, but countries which are at the same stage of development: how can they lead in environmental conservation? Actually, many local governments are not even concerned with conservation. It is possible for example, to set up a chemical-engineering enterprise in a tourism hot-spot inside a the city center! In China, the young generation creates most of the pollution. They should not be blamed however, as government at all levels strongly encourages industrial investment and what is known as the 500 most powerful enterprises. (For example, the well-known drinking water company 'SHOW' is owned by a certain provincal governor. I'm not sure whether this malarky is better or worse than Margaret Chan's chicken company, that originally held the name 'SHOW'). What's more, if we are made to tackle all those environmental problems - would we in fact have the financial resources to do so? For example, many houses are currently constructed, that undoubtedly do not follow current energy saving standards. Building in accordance to those standards would definitely increase the cost of construction. Now, who would bear the costs? Won't it be us Chinese having to bear this burden with higher taxes? You are deviating from reality discussing environmental conservation in this manner: how much has this ever meant to you? We are being pushed and shoved all the time - it’s enough. Government officials, please do not to allow this to continue. And to you adults: stop using the young as an excuse. Your moralising doesn't help. Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:56:47 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4056 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1167#comment-4056