Latest comments posted about Building communities and saving the environment on ChinaDialogue en-gb http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/1309-Building-communities-and-saving-the-environment http://staging.chinadialogue.net/images/cdlogo.gif http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/1309-Building-communities-and-saving-the-environment I think we can exaggerate the story of past agricultural innocence. If we look at where Chinese society began, more than three thousand years ago, on the Loess Plateau in the bend of the Yellow River, and we look at that region now, it's obvious that there was no harmony: it is now desert and has been for a long time. This is not the result of industry but of unsustainable agriculture. If man and nature were really in harmony, the Loess Plateau would still be green. And in more recent time, look at Manchuria: it was thickly forested until the collapse of the Qing Dynasty because the Manchu did not allow other peoples to settle there. Once they lost the power to keep them out, their ancestral lands were quickly deforested. This is a more complicated story than just the loss of some fictitious arcadian past. Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:22:59 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4426 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4426 To say modenisation is evil while enjoying all the benefits from it sounds a like lack of sensible reasoning. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:11:36 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4404 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4404 I think that American people should be more self-critical towards the global warming issue. All the people coming back from the United States became used to have their air-con on all day long, and when is really hot outside, inside the rooms it’s so cold that they have to wear a heavy coat . They don’t even have the habit of turning off lights and they will keep it on even it's a really bright day. Moreover they like driving big cars, while air pollution is already bad. If they’re going to Cuochi village, Tibet’s glacier will soon disappear. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:40:15 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4391 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4391 To comment 1, the whole story behind the so-called human-nature harmony back in the agricultural society is that people at that time didn't know how innocent they were. It is totally another issue when we, as members of modern industrialized society, pursue the true human-nature harmony with the sense of innocent in place. We can't doubt modernizatioin simply because it causes problems along the way. The real story is that the western focusing on individual freedom and fighting also nurtures our selfishness and short-sightedness. We'd rather ignore stuff, though we in fact know about it. How can we let modernity spread to the whole territory and at the meantime maintain individual characteristics and harmony? "Community Co-management" is a meaningful trail. Tianming Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:24:18 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4393 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4393 Absolutely right. We have corrected the article accordingly. Sam (cd) Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:04:38 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4389 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4389 It seems that Green Journalists Salon is founded by Wang Yongchen and Zhang Kejia.This article missed Wang's name? Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:06:21 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4387 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4387 I was told by a specialist yesterday that mankind and nature used to be in perfect harmony back in China's era of agricultural society, when nature itself had the capacity to accomodate and dissolve energy consumption and carbon emissions. However, ever since we learned industrialization from the West, energy consumption and carbon emissions have been increasing so rapidly that nature's environmental capacity can no longer deal with it. Human demands for energy are expending day by day. If we don't bring it under control, it will eventually lead to exhaustion of resources, extreme deterioration of the environment, or the collapse of the whole of society. Modernization is like a poison to mankind. It leads all the way to our extinction. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:05:20 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4381 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4381 High levels of energy consumption are poisonous. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:42:51 +0000 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4385 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/1309#comment-4385