Latest comments posted about An equitable way to fight climate change on ChinaDialogue en-gb http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/2259-An-equitable-way-to-fight-climate-change http://staging.chinadialogue.net/images/cdlogo.gif http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/2259-An-equitable-way-to-fight-climate-change This article looks sam as UNFCCC.It is hard to change people's life style.Just like Americans know their cars make a lot of pullotion.But nobody wanna change it and to use bikes to go work instead of car. Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:54:35 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7753 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7753 I thought the article was very good. However, where I was truly surprised is with the statement that petrol in China is sold at below the cost of production (quoting). "Despite the price rise, China’s petrol prices are still well below the petroleum purchase and processing costs" Working on the basis that this is correct then: a) richer Chinese i.e the ones with cars are being subsidised by ... the Chinese government?? b) if a) is correct then resources are being diverted away from important and worthy areas such as the provision of clean water supplies and sewage treatment. Perhaps this is something the government/Chinese society may wish to reflect on. In terms of alternative transport, I can remember when the options for transport in China was public or bicycle. Maybe it is time to consider how best to promote "mixed modes" of transport which include bicycles. I would add that I try to practise what I preach in that I use a bicycle as much as possible. Mike Parr. Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:07:23 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7746 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7746 This is ridiculaous. If you don't know what the Chinese, and indeed other developing countries, are asking for, please do some research and read something first. Show me the evidence that the Chinese are asking for "free" technology. Please read, in particular, Articles 4.5 and 4.7 of the UNFCCC Convention. Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:12:39 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7744 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7744 Why is it that the Chinese continue to downplay the effectiveness of consistently enforcing environmental laws while playing up getting free technology and fistfulls of cash from the West? Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:49:51 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7742 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7742 A good article by Mr. Jia. Those who consume more resources ought to shoulder more responsibilities. The Chinese government should institutionalize this arrangement, both politically and legally. ----Liu Jianqiang Translated by Bin Yang Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:17:33 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7741 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7741 Why not take it one step further and make the plans and commitments of these more developed cities/regions China's "measurable, reportable, and verifiable" action that they will be required to take in the post-Kyoto agreement? Reduction opportunities in cities are almost all low or negative-cost, and a firm commitment from China in this way could induce greater action from western countries. This could be combined with China's existing renewable energy and pollution reduction targets. -Andy Stevenson Civic Exchange （思汇政策研究所）, Hong Kong Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:57:25 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7736 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7736 I believe rich people must undertake this responsibility, they can’t just sit in a corner counting money, they should also reflect a bit on what they can do for the Earth! (Comment translated by Michelle Deeter) Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:36:12 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7735 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7735 I totally agree with Sustainablejohn’s comments. In this article I argued that folks who got rich first shoulder the responsibility of mitigation, which in essence goes with the idea that more of the duty should be shifted onto some specific industries or regions. This is not only for the purpose of mitigation, but for China’s sustainable development as well. Among the many specific problems China faces in its development, one of grave importance is the large scale social inequality due to disparity in distribution of natural resources and individual capabilities. Furthermore, the scarcity of natural resources renders the gap between rich and poor hard to close. Hence comes the dilemma of China’s economy: first the big low-income earning population drags domestic demand down, next feeble domestic demand calls for stepping up export, then stepping up export entails wage repression on labors, and then wages repression further shrink domestic demand. Statistically, the regulation (not management) of classes/regions which turn wealthy first in terms of climate change and environmental protection can do good to mitigation as well as social justice. But to carry out such measures will be certain to encounter obstacles as policy-makers and their advisers belong exactly to the get-rich-first group, who are unwilling to stand by the left-behind majority of people. ------Jia Hepeng (Comment translated by Yang bin. The title is added by translator.) Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:34:10 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7730 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7730 How about looking at the GDP of the major cities: beijing shanghai shenzhen? If you only look at the major cities based on per capita GDP, they must be considered a developed nation by now. Maybe we can push the mayors of the major cities to commit to climate targets, commit to reductions in CO2. Then you could chart how they meet these reductions. Then bring these reduction strategies to 2nd tier cities like Chengdu Xian and Shenyang. - sustainablejohn Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:26:51 -0400 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7729 http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/summary/2259#comment-7729