Following the frugal example set by our hunter-gatherer forebears is the best way to combat today’s environmental challenges, says geneticist Spencer Wells. He spoke with Robin McKie.
“Are we going to make the right decisions for the next century or the next millennium? We have not adapted psychologically to the notion of long-term consequences.”
Spencer Wells has a job that most people would kill for. He is explorer-in-residence for National Geographic and his work has taken him to every corner of the globe. His particular interests have nothing to do with wild places, however. His fascination lies with the people who inhabit these remote corners: how did they get there and what are their biological relations with other inhabitants of the planet?
Wells is a geneticist and leader of the Genographic project, funded by National Geographic, which has traced the movements of human populations since we first emerged from our sub-Saharan homeland 100,000 years ago and colonised the planet. In the process of this work, Wells noted that a swath of genetic changes occurred to our species around 12,000 years ago.
This was a crucial period for humanity as it was around this time that agriculture began its inexorable spread across Europe and Asia, changing Homo sapiens from hunter-gatherers to farming folk. The consequences were profound and not always beneficial. They also point to future problems for our species, as Wells argues in his latest book, Pandora's Seed: The Unforeseen Cost of Civilization, published by Allen Lane).

Spencer Wells discusses "Pandora's Seed" at Cornell University in New
York state. Photo by Beth Spergel, courtesy of The Cornell Daily Sun.
Robin McKie: Why did humanity turn to agriculture 12,000 years ago?
Spencer Wells: We were backed into a corner. Conditions changed at the end of the ice age 17,000 years ago and, as the climate got warmer, populations began to expand. Then there was a sudden reversal to ice age conditions during the Younger Dryas period 12,500 years ago. The land could no longer support that growing population and we had to innovate – by developing farming. It made sense in the short term, but there were consequences, both pleasant and unpleasant.
RM: Give us some examples.
SW: Before agriculture, humans were living on diets that included more than 150 plant species. Then we started farming and that figure went down to around eight. In fact, most calories came from wheat and barley, which are full of carbohydrates but have little protein. Human health declined sharply. We got shorter and life expectancy plunged. In many parts of the world, it has yet to recover.
RM: You argue that there were other consequences for society.
SW: Yes. When we were hunter-gatherers, we were relatively egalitarian. Then the population expanded and the first towns appeared. We had to find a way of ruling those people. So governments came into play. In addition, most hunter-gatherer societies today have a panoply of deities. Gods are everywhere. But as we started to control nature, we saw ourselves above nature. Gods start to take on a human form, so monotheism appears around this time.
Then there is the issue of sexual relationships, which were probably egalitarian, as they are among hunter-gatherers today. However, as we built more cities and, ultimately, empires, military might was needed and being physically strong and having military prowess became important. Men, being stronger than women, probably developed a higher social standing this way.
RM: What about the future?
SW: It is difficult to say what life is going to be like in 100 years, but certain things have clearly been set in motion, among them climate change. That is why I have developed the concept of transgenerational power – the idea that we are making decisions locally, in the here-and-now, though these will take generations to play out. We need more energy, so we pump the stuff out of the ground, but have only now realised, generations down the road, that there are unanticipated consequences.
Similarly, we are developing the ability to chose the genes we want for our offspring and, therefore, for our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren and so on.
Are we going to make the right decisions for the next century or the next millennium? We have not adapted psychologically to the notion of long-term consequences.
RM: Can Homo sapiens do that?
SW: We have to become capable of it. At the dawn of agriculture, there were around five million people on the planet. There are 6.8 billion today and this figure is expected to peak at around 9.5 billion by 2050. For the first time in 70,000 years, for lots of reasons, human numbers will have reached a steady state.
At that time, there will be more people moving into the retirement category and fewer people in the young-worker category. There will be more people over 60 than under 15 for the first time in history – all over the world, not just in the developed world.
RM: Will we be able to cope by 2050?
SW: It is a question of utilising resources in a more intelligent way. I have a phrase for it: want less. I think that is the lesson we can take from current hunter-gatherer groups, people who still live in a way that our ancestors did. They live within constraints. We have got used to expansion and dominance. Learning to recognise that we have limitations is going to be important.
RM: Are you hopeful?
SW: I am, because I think humans have the ability to innovate. The issue is seeing the consequences, realising that there is a cost to what we are doing and recognising that now. We are not adapted to think in those terms. But if we can see that there are tangible consequences to what we are doing in the here-and-now, then I think we will be spurred into action.
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匿名 | Anonymous
2010年8月16日9:29
16 Aug 2010 09:29
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缩减欲望
多诚恳的四个字"缩减欲望"。被现代社会煽动起来拥有各种欲望的人类需要勇气承认过盛欲望并且需要自制力去放弃过盛欲望。跟"放下屠刀,立地成佛"是一样的境界。如果有心去做怎么会不成呢。只是看人类有没有悔改之意了。
Want less
“Want less,” are such sincere words. Humans are instigated by modern society to have all kinds of desires. They need the courage to admit to their excessive desires and have the self-control to give them up. It is the same concept as “put down the knife and instantly become Buddha” [repent and be absolved of one’s crimes]. If you are determined, how could you not succeed? It's up to whether or not humans show signs of repentance.
匿名 | Anonymous
2010年8月16日10:35
16 Aug 2010 10:35
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我想说
佛陀讲,欲望是痛苦的来源。
我部分认同。
欲望是人性的一部分。
我想,欲望在物质层面应该是要减少的,因为地球就只有一个。但是精神层面的欲望应该引导提倡。比如读书,比如欣赏音乐,这些事情是可以追求一生也无害他人、无害自然、无害地球的。
I do have something to say
Buddha says that desire is the source of suffering.
I agree in part.
Desire is part of human nature.
I think that desire on a material level should be reduced, because there is only one planet earth. But desire on a spiritual level should be encouraged. Reading books, appreciating music; these kinds of things don't harm people, nature or planet earth.
匿名 | Anonymous
2010年8月16日10:47
16 Aug 2010 10:47
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政府方针
缩减欲望,这句话是针对中国共产党,还是针对中国民众长期容忍的政府方针呢?
Official Policy
Wanting less, is that for the Chinese Communist Party or to be the official policy for the Chinese people to endure?
匿名 | Anonymous
2010年8月19日3:18
19 Aug 2010 03:18
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反对商业社会
我们是谁?现代人吗?或者是现代商业?我们的现代社会通过创造肆无忌惮的欲望前行:汽车、私人飞机、太空飞船等等。突然停止这些人们就会迷失方向,然后我们又该追求什么呢?
against the commercial society
who are we? homo sapiens sapiens? or homo sapians commercials. our modern society moves forward by creating unbridled desires: cars, private planes, space travelling and so on and so on. stopping that suddenly people will get lost. then what to pursuit?
匿名 | Anonymous
2010年8月19日15:1
19 Aug 2010 15:01
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回复评论2
谁说看书、赏音乐不害大自然啊?我们需要砍多少棵树才能有一本书?还有除非用自己把声来唱歌,放音乐还是需要人类利用资源产生乐器才能赏吧。
Response to comment 2
Who says that reading books and appreciating music have no harmful environmental impacts? How many trees need to be cut down to make a book? And - unless you are just talking about singing - making music also uses up natural resources, which are required to manufacture the instruments.