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北京垃圾场

别啊,迁哪哪倒霉,还不如留那呢?再过个百十年,直接到坝上立块牌子,上书五个大字:北京垃圾场!下写一行小字:世界第一的垃圾场。后面加一括弧,就写:内有世界文化遗产故宫和世界建筑遗产CBD,挖掘小心。

Beijing will become a rubblish dump in future!

Moving China's Capital elsewhere will bring similar disaster to the new location.

It is possible that Beijing will become a world rubbish dump in about 100 years, though it still houses the world heritage Forbidden City.

迁都现实么?

个人觉得迁都未必是一个好办法。到是分散北京的功能是一个值得考虑的办法。现在北京集政治经济文化中心于一身使得城市发展负担过重。应该把北京作为单纯的争执中引来发展,将经济功能方分散到周围城市,如天津和河北的一些周边城市。

Is moving the Capital practical?

Personally, I don't think moving the capital from Beijing elsewhere is a good idea.

However, decentralizing Beijing's functions might work. As China's political, economic and cultural center, Beijing is overburden with an overall development in these areas.

It is suggested that surrounding cities, like Tianjin and those in Hebei Province, can help ease Beijing's pressures in economic growth.

迁都解决问题?

迁都解决了北京的问题,但谁又能保证不造成新首都出现同样的问题?

Can the resettlement of the Capital be helpful?

Problems in Beijing might be solved after the Chinese Capital is moved elsewere. However, how can we guarantee that similar problems won't occure in the new Capital?

这么眼熟的文章!

这文章在FT中文网2007年11月9日不是发表过了吗??
怎么又来了??引发的评论很多了呀?

Very familiar article!

Was this piece been published on the FT on Nov. 9 2007? See here:

So why is it republished again? Also the piece has invited many commments already on the FT.

花费

迁都所需要的补助将会是巨大的,因为这涉及到成千上万的居民需要迁往到新都以及众多的国内外公司需要在新都重新建立自己的总部。并且被选来当新都的城市也不乐于接受新的老板和员工从而使当地的老板们丧失权力。

the expense

The cost of moving would be huge as massive subsidies would be needed for the tens of millions of residents and demanded by so many domestic and foreign companies as they would need and want to relocate their head offices to the new capital.

Also, the city chosen as the capital might not be so happy to receive the emporer and staff because that means a loss of power for local bosses.

有关FT中文网的问题

是的,这篇文章最初是在FT中文网上发表过,你也可以在这篇文章末尾的注明上看到。FT中文网的编辑会定期的发表一些对他们的读者感兴趣的中外对话的文章。中外对话也会偶尔发表一些感兴趣的FT中文网上的文章,这些文章可能是我们读者没有看到过的。----中外对话总编:Isabel Hilton

ft question

Yes this piece was published originally on ftchinese.co, as is clearly stated at the bottom of the article. ftchinese.com regularly publishes chinadialogue material that its editors consider of interest to its readers. chinadialogue occasionally publishes ftchinese.com material that is of interest and that our readers may not have seen.
isabel hilton, editor, chinadialogue

仅仅靠迁都并不是一个好的解决办法

现在中国存在更多更重要需要考虑的问题。很长一段时间以来,北京已经集聚了作为首都的所有功能,而现在迁都无疑将耗资巨大且没有价值。我的建议是将工业以及工厂搬迁出去,使北京成为一个仅是首都的特殊城市。张

It is not a good solution just by moving the capital

Nowerdays there are many more important things than considering this problem for China .And for such a long time ,Beijing has gathered all the functions as a capital,the expense of moving it is very huge and useless.
My opinion is moving out the factories and industries ,leave Beijing a special city as the capital. Zhang

污染转移

应该是减少人口,减少排放,减少污染......Mo

transfer pollution

We should try to control population, reduce green-house gas emission, fight pollution...

欢迎迁都

迁都涉及到了集体和个人方方面面的利益,但是只要迁了,再大的问题也会随着时间的流逝而得到解决.新中国需要一个更具更现代化的的首都来更好地代表它的形象。

Support removing capital

It is for sure that moving the capital will have an impact on the interests of individuals and collectives and thus bring in issues of all sorts.

However, big all these problems are, they can be solved as time goes by.

A much more modern capital is called on for the new China to better present its image.

北京将会发生什么情况?

在中国迁都建议中,有人提议迁移到一个小城市,这样政客们就不会被地方利益所钳制。另外,还有人把北京污染和水源缺乏作为迁都的动力和理由。

那么,迁都将意味大量人口的迁移吗? 如果不是的话, 环境问题不会得到解决。环境问题将被留给这些留在北京的人来解决。如果如此的话,这将回到这篇文章提到的迁都的理由,除了水资源因素外。

有一些迁都的积极因素,但迁都看起来不会解决北京目前面临的很多问题,所以,迁都后,这些问题还是继续存在。  Jonathan

What will happen to Beijing?

In suggesting that the capital move, the argued call for a small city so that politicians could not be held ransom by local interests. Elsewhere it argued that pollution and scarce water resources are motivations for moving. So is there going to be a massive move of people to the new capital or not? If not, the environmental problems won't fixed, they'll just be left behind by the government for those left in Beijing to deal with. If so, then this will invite the same problems that the article cites as reasons to move (with perhaps the exception of low water resources). There could be some positive elements to moving the capital, but it doesn't seem to address many of the issues that Beijing currently faces and will continue to face.
-Jonathan


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