在中国的几个月中，我在香山公园参加了一个事件叫做“中国国际环境保护行动”（2006年9月16日）。有一个保护环境的演讲，还有一大堆塑料瓶子，每个人都为之雀跃，然后人们开始销售用循环材料做成的商品，这就是它的延伸。我没有看到任何具有创意或者有意义的想法代替保护环境。例如北京国际村似乎得到了好多奖励，但又怎样？商业在利用这个繁荣。去保定和德州，那里有中国的“太阳山谷”，山谷的街灯都是太阳能的，哦耶！
所以，我们怎样得到更多的公共参与？是的，律师和关系的费用很高。但是也许我们可以开始得到环境问题真正的准确的焦点。
请每个人应该从这里学起，中国政府改变数据使北京每年看来拥有更多的优秀的空气质量。
嘲讽的
鲍勃

Within the first few months I was in China, I attended an event called "Sino-International Environmental Protection Event" (Sept 16 2006) in Xiangshan Park. There was a speech on protecting the environment, and then there was a big pile of plastic bottles and everyone clapped for it (yay!), and then people tried to sell products made out of recycled materials. That was the extent of it. In terms of Chinese NGOs, I have seen few creative or meaningful ideas in terms of protecting the environment. Global Village of Beijing for instance, seems to get a lot of awards, but for what? Businesses are certainly taking advantage of this boom. Go to Baoding, or Dezhou, these are the "solar valleys" of China, where the streetlights are powered by solar panels, oohh aahh!

So how do we get more public participation? Yes, the cost of guanxi and lawyers is high. But maybe we can start with getting real, accurate information on the gravity of environmental problems.

Everyone please begin by reading how the Chinese government altered data to make it seem like Beijing has more blue sky days every year: here

Cynically,
Bob

Bob，我赞成关于信息是有效参与的关键。正如我在厦门PX事件那篇文章的评论里所提到的一样，同样还需要的是一个为实施众议而明确规定的方案，而不是一个简单的承诺，没有实质和确切内容。中国的众议一般不超过一天，而欧洲同样的议题可能至少持续一年。

Bob,
I agree that information is crucial to effective participation. As I just mentioned in a comment on the Xiamen PX article, it seems what is also needed is clearly defined frameworks for carrying out public consultatations, rather than simply commitments to participation without substance and specification. Chinese public consultations have been known to last no longer than a day (when a European equivalent might last a year, at least) - SL