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drogpa

2012年2月9日5:36

09 Feb 2012 05:36

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保护生态难民

现行政策对牧场的有效保护能持续多久呢,现行政策同时也要为当前高原地区滋长的危机负责...

我引述杜伟义《保护难民》一书的前言部分......

我们的权益被剥夺了,起先在帝王的威名下(文化大革命),后来在国家发展的名义下(西部大开发),如今在保护的旗号下(拯救水源)......

我认为,如果用括号里的词做替代,这段在第五届世界公园大会上一个土著代表团所说的话在此非常适用...

向你们致以诚挚的问候......感谢你们发布了这篇文章......

conservation refugees  

How long can the current policy hold against the real guardian of the pastures, it is also responsible for fueling the prevailing crisis on the plateau...
I quote directly from Dowie book 'conservation refugees' introductory page..

[F]irst we were dispossessed in the name of kings and emperors (Cultural revolution), later in the name of state developments(Western Development), and now in the name of conservation (saving The water tower).....

I think this quote from an Indigenous delegation to the 5th World Park Congress fits right here in this context...with some change of wordings as indicated in brackets..

regards..thanks for posting this article..

 
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graham

2012年2月9日11:21

09 Feb 2012 11:21

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感谢以及一些感想

感谢两位作者——关桂霞和索南旺杰发人深省的报道。期待能有更多此方面的报道问世。

毋庸置疑,中国共产党正在为确保国家的用水安全进行投资。

我想了解的是,在这项长达7年的工程中,有否采取一些积极的措施,用以记录和了解该地区生态状况与人类活动的相互影响。是否有科学依据可以证实停止放牧对该高地的生态影响重大?很难相信75亿元人民币的投资仅仅是将5万移民推向贫苦困境。实在是难以想象,当这些牧民必须放弃世代相传的生活方式,改变赖以生存的经济来源时,他们作何感想。

上个世纪50年代,内蒙古草原严重退化的部分原因需归咎于毁坏游牧文化的所谓的 “现代化”。难道我们还没有从中吸取教训吗?

Thanks + brief thoughts  

Thank you both Guan Guixia and Suonan Wangjie for this though provoking article! Looking forward to more on this topic.
It is no surprise that the the CCP is investing in the countries water security.
I would like to hear more about the positive steps taken during this 7 year project to document and understand this vast regions ecology in relation to all human interaction. Were there scientifically drawn conclusions that proved ceasing herdsman-ship was vital to the ecology of the plateau? Its hard to believe that 7.5 billion Yuan has merely resettled 50,000 people into poverty.Its difficult to imagine how the relocated herders must feel, having their ancestral way of life and ability to provide for their families eliminated.

The severe degradation of the fragile inner Mongolian steppe in the 1950s was in part due to 'modernization' destroying the delicate balance of nomadic cultures within these grasslands. Were any lessons learned?