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US-China meeting update China Dialogue | Dec 18
(UPDATE on second meeting added below). From the White House pool reports, with thanks to adopt a negotiator:
President Obama and Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao met for 55 minutes in a room at the Bella Center, and “made progress,” a White House official said. That meeting broke up a little after 1:35 p.m. Copenhagen time.
The official called the discussion “constructive,” and said that the two men touched on all of the three issues which Mr. Obama raised during his speech: emissions goals from all key countries, verification mechanism, and financing.
Mr. Obama and Mr. Wen asked their negotiators to get together one-on-one after the meeting, as well as with other countries, “to see if an agreement can be reached,” the White House official said.
Asked if the two had achieved a breakthrough, the official said “they took a step forward and made progress.”
He said that the hope is to reach an agreement today.
UPDATE: President Obama has invited premier Wen to meet again, for another bilateral meeting to discuss outstanding issues, Reuters quoted the White House as saying in a statement. The meeting was scheduled to take place at 6:15pm local time on Friday.
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中国和美国为自身利益弄出个不尽人意的协议，现在的媒体（12月18日深夜）都把这报道成一项“成果”，殊不知他们国家以外还有数亿的穷人饱受气候变化的苦难，而这两个国家显然造成了很大的影响。
中国比美国更应受到谴责，至少美国愿意出资1000亿美元来帮助发展中国家。这其中大部分不是分给穷人，而是发给那些有望增加碳排放的国家，尤其是印度和中国。
巴厘过后的两年，哥本哈根完全是在浪费宝贵的时间。
China and the USA have acted for themselves in the very inadequate agreement which the media is now (late night 18 December) reporting as a succes - rather than the billions of poor people outside their countries who will suffer most from Climate Change which those two countries are doing so much to cause.
China's position is even more reprehensible than that of the USA - at least the USA is willing to help raise US$100bi to help developing countries. Most of this will be allocated not to the poor but to countries which intend to increase their carbon emissions - notably India and China.
Copenhagen - and the last two years since Bali - has been a waste of precious time.
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