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Why I've become a vegetarian: Chinese filmmaker speaks out about environmental impact of eating meat

Jian Yi, director of 'What's For Dinner?', says he was shocked into becoming a vegetarian by the environmental and animal welfare costs of meat production

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Jian Yi is director of the film 'What's For Dinner?' (Image by BrighterGreenNY)

Jian Yi, director of 'What's For Dinner?', a film about the meat industry, speaks to Tom Levitt about his own views on China's burgeoning livestock sector.

Tom Levitt (TL): What inspired you to make this film
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Jian Yi: Before making the film I’d only been vegetarian for a month. Mia MacDonald, founder of New York environmental group Brighter Green got in touch via documentary distributor Karin Chien, asking if I would make a short film on the environmental impact of the meat industry. I didn’t agree right away, as I’d only just become vegetarian and I didn’t think I had enough understanding or experience of the issues. But Mia kept sending me their reports and when I read them carefully I was actually shocked. I’d never thought about how something as basic as what we eat could affect us so much. If we don’t reconsider and make some changes, nature will sooner or later take its revenge. So I decided I would make the film, using the opportunity to explore this issue and bring it to wider attention. 

TL: What did you learn or come to understand through making this film?

JY: It turned me into a staunch vegetarian. Before it’d just been a little lifestyle experiment, I wasn’t sure how long I’d stick with it. After making the film, there was no going back. There’s no way my conscience would let me sit down and eat the flesh of an animal and think there wasn’t any harm being done. When I realise that we, humanity, have better options, how can I kill animals just to keep myself fed? How could I not remember that our appetites result in livestock suffering? How could I pretend the environmental damage was nothing to do with me? I can’t do that.

TL: 
Who in the film had the greatest impact on you?

JY: The vegetarians we interviewed, people like Xie Zheng and Dr Yu. Both because they were actually taking action to demonstrate better ways of living, and because with their support my wife and I were able to have a vegetarian wedding and raise a vegetarian child. When society as a whole lacks understanding of healthy and green eating habits, support from friends like that is invaluable.

TL: How aware do you think the Chinese people are of the issues covered in the film?

JY: The vast majority aren’t aware of the effect of the meat industry on the environment. It’s important information, easily found online. So why haven’t they seen it? Humans can have a kind of selective blindness sometimes, not just in China but everywhere. And our social values still favour money, enjoyment, quick rewards. Civil society is weak, there’s little space for public debate, and many more obvious environmental issues aren’t being taken seriously either, never mind the more easily ignored impact of the meat industry.

What I want to say is that even if people are aware, that doesn’t mean they’ll do anything. There are examples all around us. Unlike driving cars and shopping, which also affect the environment, eating is something that everyone does, that is very close to everyone’s hearts, it’s both a very personal and very public matter. What we choose to put in our mouths is a very personal matter. You can see this in the attitude my parents have to our raising our child as a vegetarian. They can accept our own choices for ourselves, but they’re strongly against us making the same choice for our child. They think it’s like we’re carrying out an experiment. (Or put it another way, they’ve been captured by mainstream views of meat-eating and are trying to impose that on our child).

But there’s also a public aspect to eating. When food is grown or raised, harvested, processed, or sold, this is a societal matter How do these processes affect society as a whole and us as individuals? That’s something we still need to take a closer look at.

For vegetarians that lack of understanding, even opposition, from other people and even loved ones, is not necessarily a bad thing. What’s worse is a lack of concern. Opposition at least drives us to think about why and what we eat, and how we eat it. To better understand how this affects us and our world. If vegetarians can look at animals, can look at the world, with compassion – why can’t we do the same for other people who haven’t reached the same stage of understanding we have?

TL: What factors do you think are increasing meat consumption in China?

JY: I was amazed by the impact the meat industry has on the environment we live in, but what worried me more is that in China, with one fifth of the world’s people, meat production is going to expand and become more intensified in line with economic growth. There’s plenty of research showing that this, coupled with China’s huge population, will be hugely bad news for human health, animal welfare, food security, climate change, and many other fields. And the root cause of this is the changing values of the Chinese people.

In the last thirty years China has been powered by economic growth. Reforms have remolded Chinese society and our values. Our self-worth is now defined by our ability to consume. But the market reforms have been incomplete: we still lack the rule of law and the transparency associated with markets, leading to our current economic structure and distorted social development. Economic development can influence politics in the West too, but China’s challenge is that the ruling party and the government are bound together. Government legitimacy rests almost solely on economic growth. So the government has to push GDP growth and make economic activity the dominant role in the people’s lives. All social activity becomes about the economy. It’s like instant noodles – all calories, no nutrition.

The sudden acquisition of wealth and disposable resources has made the Chinese people, emerging from the planned economy’s low standard of living, think that the individual is now in charge of their own lives. And to an extent that’s true, we have money, we can travel or even emigrate, we have money to fulfill our ownership urges, we can eat delicacies from all over the world, drive sports cars and sail yachts, fly private planes. If you’ve got the money, you can do what you want, and it all seems great.

But all these material possibilities have been accompanied by deterioration in the environment we live in, and humanity’s future looks under threat. When we use the language of economics to describe the world, when we use our material possessions to understand ourselves, of course we can’t hear the cries of the animals, the complaints of nature, or the sighs of future generations. 

TL: 
Were you a vegetarian before making the film?

JY: I’ve been vegetarian for five years. Five years ago my wife and I saw a couple we were friends with living a life of tranquility and moderation, and that inspired us to cut out meat. That was how it started. Then I took on this film and decided to stick with it. I mentioned this earlier.

I’d decided to go vegetarian before that, and that lasted for a year.

That time it was coming up to the Chinese New Year of 2005. I was filming a rural family that was being resettled. They were very poor; they had nothing but some cast-off furniture and a hen. That hen was so precious to them it had spent its whole life tied to the leg of the kitchen table. And as they were being resettled, they decided to kill it for the New Year dinner. And the guy, with his first swing he cut the bird’s throat, then on the second he cut the rope it was tied up with. And that made me think. I wasn’t religious then, but the fate of that hen for some reason made me think of our own fates. Are we only set free from our own fetters when we die? That made me decide to eat vegetarian for a year. But I never thought about it further, so I didn’t stick with it.

There was something else that happened in between which made me go vegetarian again. In 2008 I was in New York, eating dinner with a group of international friends. A chicken dish came out and someone said it was really good. And because in English they use the same word for ‘chicken’ and ‘chicken meat’, it sounded for a moment to me like she was saying the chicken was very good for having allowed us to eat its meat. For people, there’s no difference between a chicken and its meat. For diners, a chicken’s life has no value, the only value is when it’s served up as meat. I was eating a lot of meat at the time, and that was a shocking thought.

That reminds me of something a vegetarian friend, Brian, told me. His four-year-old daughter is proud to be a vegetarian, as it means she doesn’t love the cute animals in the cartoons one minute, then turn around and use a real animal for food the next.

TL: 
Is the film aimed mainly at those living in the cities, where consumption of meat is much higher? 

JY: The film isn’t for anyone in particular. But it’s more likely that people in cities will see it. As for the differing levels of meat consumption between the cities and rural areas, I haven’t looked into that, so I can’t say for sure. But from what I’ve seen, more meat is being eaten in the rural areas than in the past. And that’s even more the case in the cities. People have more purchasing power, salaries are higher, so in the cities people expect to eat meat. For restaurant owners different types of meat, and in particular exotic types, sell well and allow for much more profit than vegetarian dishes. So restaurants will try to tempt and encourage people to eat more meat.

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匿名 | Anonymous

非常新的角度

很精彩的采访,读后会让人思考我们每天吃的食物背后隐藏的深刻问题,究竟会对动物福祉和经济产生怎样的影响。看到中国正在处理这些问题,我激动不已,希望这会使更多的人参与其中,未来我们可以有更好的可持续的选择方案。

Fresh perspective

Fascinating interview that makes the reader consider the profound issues behind what we eat, from the subconscious to animal welfare and economics. I'm thrilled these issues are being tackled in China, and hopefully this brings more people into the conversation and we can make better, more sustainable choices in the future.

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匿名 | Anonymous

我为什么成为素食者?

这篇讲素食者的文章需要让所有人都真正意识到素食主义的重要性。如果这个社会都能遵从素食文化,那么会更有利后代发展。Maritta Koch-Weser

Why I've become a vegetarian

The article about being a vegetarian should speak to everybody's senses and sensibility. A world with more vegetarians will be a better, and better fed one. Maritta Koch-Weser

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匿名 | Anonymous

这可能是最容易实现的行动

素食主义者总是被别人问,有时自己也会文“为什么?”。尽管这是件好事,人们因为环境原因开始吃素,对大多数人来说,每天吃一顿素(其他时间的饮食没有二次肉类消费)会对气候与自然资源产生很大影响。而且,这实现起来比每少开车要容易,尤其是当你住在一个公共交通不够便利的地方。

Probably the Easiest Action One Could Take

Vegetarians are always asked this question, "why", from others and from themselves. Although it's great to see people becoming vegetarians due to environmental reasons (and to see such a title heading China Dialogue), for most people, one vegetarian/vegan lunch/dinner per day (without double meat consumption at the other meal) would already make a huge difference to the climate and natural resources. And it's much easier than driving less, especially if you live somewhere without convenient public transportation system.

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匿名 | Anonymous

go vegetarian!

This is a good interview, and hope more Chinese people are encouraged to go vegetarian. I went vegetarian for more than 10 years, though not as strict as vegan. It is a much healthier way to live as well. I tried to encourage people in my family or friends to either go vegetarian or cut meat consumption as much as I can. If every vegetarian does this, it will spread to more people becoming a vegetarian.

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匿名 | Anonymous

Fiona Aston

Please carry on spreading awareness of the impact of eating animal flesh. Most people are not aware and many, even though aware, do not care. Slowly, though, a lot of people are stopping eating meat and beginning to care - including myself, my son-in-law and my 10 year old grand-daughter.