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奥巴马和温家宝登场,MRV发生微妙变化

两天来中、美两国搔首弄姿,似乎就如何检测中国应对气候变化采取行动的问题有了微妙的转变。中国国务院总理温家宝提到要中国的行动要“透”',美国总统奥巴马就此表示赞同:

……我们必须建立一个机制,来审查我们是否做到了承诺,并能以透明的方式交换这个信息。这些措施不需要干扰,或侵犯主权。他们但是必须确保一个协议是可信的,确保我们完成了义务。如果没有这种问责制,任何协议就会变成一句空话。
 
这也印证了一些接近美、中代表团的内部人士给中外对话的讯息。具体来说,就是他们认为美国和中国之间将有所妥协,确保中国的行动“可测量,可报告和可核查”'(MRV)。

这两个讲话都有些粗糙,且在意料之中。许多其他领导人对联合国的进展感到沮丧,更别说他们被迫在凌晨对还非最后的细节进行讨论。

点击这里,看绿跃进博客昨天一篇关于“中美MRV议题”的好文章。

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匿名 | Anonymous

透明而非MVR,坏预兆

鉴于中国在许多方面都做不到透明度,理论上我们应该欢迎中国同意让它的二氧化碳排放量透明。

然而,作为世界上最大的污染国(尽管部分是为他国排放的),这可不是一个良好的先例。

哥本哈根严重缺乏信任。而拒绝接受MVR则给本就不足的信任雪上加霜。

能源强度索赔(每单位GDP二氧化碳排放量的效率)和中国GDP的指数一样不足为信,最终成为世界公认的科幻故事。

Transparency rather than MVR - a bad omen

Given that China is not transparent in many other ways, one should presumably welcome China agreeing to be transparent over its carbon emissions.

However, as the world's largest polluter (albeit partly on behalf of others), this does not set a good precedent.

Lack of trust has been significant during "Copenhagen". Refusal to agree to MVR adds further to that lack of trust.

Claims about energy intensity (in effect carbon emissions per unit of GDP) can be no more credible than China's GDP figures - which are widely regarded around the world as fiction.

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匿名 | Anonymous

我的看法

如果碳税得到很好的实施,用油、用电少的人甚至可以得到补贴。例如,加州人均碳排放量全美最低,是平均值的一半,这并不是偶然现象。我们(加州)通过了严厉的节能减排法规。另外还有,我在美国国会工作了五年,认识到一条金科玉律:法规是权势阶层所定。
I spent 5 years working on Capitol Hill. I leanred a thing that was called the Golden Rule: Them that got the gold are making the rule.

The method I would choose

If carbon tax is implemented well, then those who use very little oil and electricity should receive a subsidy. For example, California has the lowest per capita carbon emissions rate in the US, and the fact that this accounts for half of the average value is no accident. In California we have been subject to very strict energy savings, and emissions reductions legislation. I spent five years working on Capitol Hill and while there I learned something known as the Golden Rule: It's those who own the gold that make the rules.